白宫称世卫新报告没有让我们更了解病毒来源

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昨天白宫例行新闻发布会,世卫组织有关中共病毒报告、以及中共问题成了焦点,现将有关内容摘译如下,供战友参考。【1】

2021年3月30日,新闻秘书詹·普萨基(Jen Psaki)的新闻简报

新闻发布会

新闻简报室

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问:还有一个话题,23个国家已经签署了世卫组织一项条约的构想,该条约将在未来的疫情期间改善信息共享,为什么美国还没有签署?

普萨基:我们认为,与国际伙伴和其他国家合作至关重要,当然,加强和改革我们在应对流行病和未来流行病方面的国际努力也至关重要。

我们确实对目前谈判一项新条约的时机和启动感到关切,我们认为,这可能会使人们的注意力从有关应对、准备应对未来大流行病威胁的实质性问题上转移,我们相信,这应该是我们目前的重点,但我们当然愿意并期待与国际社会继续合作。

继续提问……

问:拜登是否相信,数百万因中共病毒失去亲人的美国人,应该得到比他们从世卫组织那里得到的更好的回应?

普萨基:在调查-

问:有关中共病毒的起源。

普萨基:我认为,他相信,美国人民、国际社会、医学专家、医生——所有为拯救生命而努力的人-失去亲人的家庭-都应该获得更大的透明度,他们应该得到更准确的信息,它们应该得到国际社会为提供这些(本应)采取的步骤。

因此,包括美国在内的许多国家都发表了广泛的声明,但让我强调一下——我们仍在审查这份报告,但让我强调一些最新的关切。

该报告缺乏关键的数据、信息和访问权限,它展示了一幅局部的、不完整的图画,正如我所指出的,发表了一项联合声明,我们还欢迎欧盟和欧盟成员国发表类似声明,发出了一个明确的信息,即国际社会也有这些关切。

我们认为应该从这里采取一些步骤,我们认为,这一进程的第二个阶段应该由国际和独立专家领导,他们应该可以不受限制地访问数据,他们应该能够在这个时间点向在当地的人提问,这是世卫组织可以采取的步骤。

问:该声明说,美国与这些国家一道表达了共同的关切,但坦率地说,这份声明相当官僚主义,就死亡人数而言,或许不符合这个国家危机的严重性。那么,白宫对世卫组织这份报告的实际反应是什么?这仅仅是不充分的吗?

普萨基:嗯,我们的专家组还在审查这份报告;17位专家正在审查。

问:但你知道它的标题,这是不够的,你说过,所以呢-

普萨基:我们同意,我们早就说过,正如我刚才说的,它缺乏关键的数据和信息,它缺乏访问权限,它缺乏透明度。当然——我们不认为,在我们迄今的审查中,它符合当前的情况,它符合这一流行病对全球社会的影响,这就是为什么我们还呼吁采取进一步的前瞻性措施。

我要告诉你们的是,在20个左右的国家之间进行谈判以获得一份声明,有时看起来是官僚主义的,但却是善意的。

问:拜登什么时候就此发表讲话?

普萨基:关于世卫组织的报告?我想我们会让我们的审查结束,然后我们会寻找机会让他发言,但我可以肯定地告诉你,他也有同样的担忧,他们直接来自他,也直接来自我们的国家安全团队,我们的国家安全团队研究了迄今为止的报告,他们仍在审查和分享声明中明确表达的担忧。

继续提问……

问:我也只想从中汲取教训,世界卫生组织谭德塞的一个主要担忧是,如果你愿意的话,这份报告可能掩盖了病毒从实验室逃逸的可能性,这也是白宫关注的焦点吗?然后,当你谈到合作时,在白宫看来,中共国是否还不够合作?

普萨基:嗯,他们一直不透明,他们没有提供基础数据,这当然不算合作,你知道,到目前为止我们的专家所做的分析-你知道,或者说他们担心的是,一个假设没有额外的支持,它并没有使我们比六到九个月前更接近于对起源的理解或更深入的了解,它也没有为我们提供指导方针或步骤-我们应该如何防止这种情况发生在未来的建议步骤,这些都是必须的。

问:所以这集中在实验室的假设上?

普萨基:再说一次,它不会-它不会导致-它不会-它不会让我们更好地了解病毒的起源。

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问:是的,世卫组织还有一个后续行动,总统对世卫组织感到失望吗?他相信他们不能胜任这项任务吗?

普萨基:我认为声明表明的是,我们仍然对世卫组织的作用充满信心,我们期待着成为世卫组织的一个有贡献的成员,我们有一些关切,正如我迄今为止对报告所作的分析所表示的那样,我们认为可以在审查的第二阶段采取步骤,改进其中一些关切。

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问:关于世卫组织,川普总统指责世卫组织是“中共国的傀儡”,这份报告证实了这一说法吗?

普萨基:好吧,我认为我们已经表达了对这一角色的关切-缺乏透明度,缺乏广泛提供给全球社会的数据,我们认为,可以采取一些步骤,确保独立调查-全球专家参与这一进程的下一阶段,但我们也认为,世界卫生组织是一个美国应该参与的机构-为了实现变革,我们需要在谈判桌上占有一席之地,这就是为什么我们重新加入世界卫生组织。

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问:我有一个关于亚洲的问题和一个关于亚裔美国人的问题,我们知道日本首相即将到访,而且据说国家安全委员会和国务院都将主办这次会议-他们的日本和韩国同行。作为一个外国新闻集团的代表,我从NHK得到了一个问题。

日本媒体问,贵国政府集中精力与日本、韩国等东亚盟国密切合作,对抗中共国,但这些国家与中共国的关系不同于美国与中共国的关系,那么,当你和你的亚洲盟友的利益与美国不同时,他们将如何与你合作呢。?

普萨基:我不确定我是否完全理解你的问题,你是在问,当总统和其他政府官员会见日本领导人时,我们将如何讨论中共国以及我们与中共国的关系?

问:不,我(是说)-东亚国家与美国在中共国的利益不同。

普萨基:当然。

问:如果你们有不同的利益,你们将如何让你们的亚洲盟友与你们合作?

普萨基:嗯,我认为,就像美国与任何国家的关系一样,都有共同利益的领域,无论是经济合作还是地区安全,我们都可以在一些领域进行沟通、合作,甚至有时会有分歧,当然,我们会-我希望这些对话应该涵盖一系列的话题。(摘译完)

几个关键点:


1、三次提到了“缺乏关键的数据、信息和访问权限”,以及透明度;

2、这一段应该怎样理解?“……或者说他们担心的是,一个假设没有额外的支持,它并没有使我们比六到九个月前更接近于对起源的理解或更深入的了解,它也没有为我们提供指导方针或步骤-我们应该如何防止这种情况发生在未来的建议步骤,这些都是必须的。

问:所以这集中在实验室的假设上?

普萨基:再说一次,它不会-它不会导致-它不会-它不会让我们更好地了解病毒的起源。”

白宫怀疑病毒来源于武汉实验室?

3、“全球专家参与这一进程的下一阶段”,在国务院的有关声明中似乎也有“下一个阶段”的说法。

大势所趋之下,全世界都在看着你白宫!

蓬佩奥国务卿已经定性,“世界卫生组织与中共同谋!”【2】

静观白宫进一步的举动。

参考链接:

【1】https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/03/30/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-march-30-2021/

【2】https://gnews.org/zh-hans/1039400/

新闻稿原文部分:

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Q    And one other topic.  Twenty-three countries have signed on to the idea of this WHO treaty that would improve information sharing during future pandemics.  Why hasn’t the U.S. signed on to that?

MS. PSAKI:  Well, we believe it’s vital in working with international partners and other countries and, of course, strengthening and reforming our international efforts as it relates to addressing pandemics and future pandemics.

We do have some concerns primarily about the timing and launching into negotiations for a new treaty right now, and we believe that could divert attention away from substantive issues regarding the response, preparedness for future pandemic threats.  And we believe that should be our focus currently, but we’re certainly open to and looking for continued collaboration with the global community.

Go ahead.

Q    Does President Biden believe that the millions of Americans who lost loved ones to COVID-19 deserve a better response than the one that they’ve gotten from the WHO?

MS. PSAKI:  In terms of looking into —

Q    In terms of the origins for COVID-19.

MS. PSAKI:  Well, I think he believes that the American people, the global community, the medical experts, the doctors — all of the people who have been working to save lives — the families who have lost loved ones — all deserve greater transparency.  They deserve better information.  They deserve steps that are taken by the global community to provide that.

So there was an extensive statement put out by a number of countries, including the U.S.  But let me highlight — and we’re still reviewing the report, but let me highlight some of the concerns that have come up to date.

The report lacks crucial data, information, and access.  It represents a partial and incomplete picture.  There was a joint statement, as I noted, that was put out.  We also welcome a similar statement from the EU and EU members, sending a clear message that the global community shares these concerns.

There are steps from here that we believe should be taken.  There’s a second stage in this process that we believe should be led by international and independent experts.  They should have unfettered access to data.  They should be able to ask questions of people who are on the ground at this point in time, and that’s a step the WHO could take.

Q    And that statement says that the U.S. joins these countries in expressing shared concerns.  But the statement, quite frankly, is pretty bureaucratic and perhaps does not meet the moment of the seriousness of the crisis here in this country in terms of the death toll.  So what is the White House’s actual reaction to this report from the WHO?  Was it simply inadequate?

MS. PSAKI:  Well, the report is still being reviewed by our team of experts; 17 experts are reviewing it.

Q    But you know the headline of it, and it’s not sufficient, you’ve said.  So —

MS. PSAKI:  We agree.  And we have long said, as I just stated, it lacks crucial data, information.  It lacks access.  It lacks transparency.  It certainly — we don’t believe that, in our review to date, that it meets the moment, it meets the impact that this pandemic has had on the global community.  And that’s why we also have called for additional forward-looking steps.

And I will tell you that negotiating between 20 countries or so to get a statement out, sometimes it appears bureaucratic, but well-intentioned.

Q    When will the President speak on this?

MS. PSAKI:  On the WHO report?  I expect we’ll let our review conclude, and then we’ll look for an opportunity for him to speak to it.  But I can certainly confirm for you that he shares these concerns.  They are coming directly from him and directly from our national security team, who has looked at what the report has presented to date.  They’re still reviewing and share the concerns issued in that statement that made those concerns clear.

Go ahead.

Q    Thanks, Jen.  I just want to piggyback off of that as well.  World Health Organization Director General Tedros — one of his primary concerns was that the report may have glossed over, if you will, the possibility that the — that the virus escaped from a lab.  Is that a central concern of the White House as well?  And then, when you talk about cooperation, has China not cooperated enough, in the White House’s opinion?

MS. PSAKI:  Well, they have not been transparent.  They have not provided underlying data.  That certainly doesn’t qualify as cooperation.  You know, the analysis performed to date from our experts — you know, or their concern is that there isn’t additional support for one hypothesis.  It doesn’t lead us to any closer of an understanding or greater knowledge than we had six to nine months ago about the origin.  It also doesn’t provide us guidelines or steps — recommended steps on how we should prevent this from happening in the future.  And those are imperative.

Q    And so that centers on the hypothesis that would involve the lab?

MS. PSAKI:  Again, it doesn’t — it doesn’t lead to — it doesn’t — it doesn’t provide us greater understanding of the origin of the virus.

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Q    Yes, one more follow-up on the WHO.  Is the President disappointed with the WHO?  Does he believe they’re not up to the task?

MS. PSAKI:  I think what the statement makes clear is that we remain — that — that was issued by the State Department today — is that we remain confident in the role of the WHO.  We look to be a contributing member of the WHO.  We have some concerns as we — as I’ve expressed about the analysis that’s been done so far about the report, and we think that steps can be taken moving forward in the second stage of the review to ameliorate some of those.

Go ahead.

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Q    Descheduling them — federally descheduling and an end the federal prohibition?

MS. PSAKI:   That’s been his position.  Nothing has changed.

Q    And regarding the WHO, former President Trump has accused the WHO of being, quote, “a puppet of China.”  Does this report confirm that claim?

MS. PSAKI:  Well, I think we’ve expressed our concerns about the role — the lack of transparency, the lack of data that has been provided broadly to the global community.  We believe there are steps that can be taken moving forward to ensure that an independent investigation — that global experts are involved in the next stage of this process.  But we also believe that the WHO is a body that the United States should be a part of — that in order to make changes happen, we need to have a seat at the table, and that’s why we rejoined the WHO.

Go ahead, in the back.

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Q    Thank you very much, Jen.  I have one question on Asia and one question on Asian Americans.  We know the Japanese Prime Minister is coming to visit, and also both NSC and State Department are said to host the — their Japanese and South Korean counterparts.  As the representative of a foreign press group, I got a question from NHK.

The Japanese media asks: Your administration has focused on working closely with East Asian allies, like Japan and South Korea, to counter to China.  But these countries have a different relationship with China than the U.S. has with China.  So how will you and your Asian allies cooperate with you when they sit on different interests than the U.S.?

MS. PSAKI:  I’m not sure I completely understand your question.  Are you asking if we — how will we discuss China and our relationship with China when the President and others in the administration see leaders from Japan?

Q    No.  I — the East Asian countries have different interests than the U.S. has with China.

MS. PSAKI:  Sure.

Q    So how will — how will you have your Asian allies cooperate with you if you have different interests?

MS. PSAKI:  Well, I think, just like the U.S. relationships with any country, there are areas of mutual interests.  There are areas where we can communicate, work together on, even sometimes have disagreements, whether it is economic cooperation or security in the region.  And certainly we’ll — I expect that those conversations should cover a range of topics.

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